Phil, fire off a post to: PWN375@aol.com His name is Perry, and he just bought a Kreighoff double chambered for 500/416NE. He tells me hae is getting 1.5 inch, four shot composite groups at 50 yds with two fired from each barrel. fired in the proper rt, lft, rt, lft order! He seems taken by this rifle. I'm not sure I like the cocking/safety feature, but he can tell you more abou that!