Will ,my loads with Varget (AR2208 realy) were 84-85 gns . 86gns will just touch the bottom of a 500gn bullet. My cases are 2.850 long 375 basic brass. Two days ago was the last time I shot the 500gn loads at 2300 fps and these definitley showed NO signs of presure at all. I have loaded up to 2350fps with 86gns and primers started to get a little flat but cases popped out easily. I usualy load down to 2250 fps as most of my shooting is at paper ,termite mounds and tree stumps , not buffalo or tuskers.