i dont know i havent had a custom gun built in 20 years and unless i have joel dorleac build me one i may never again,,but i do remember jasper was kinda new on the scene back then and his prices reflected that,, a great guy to work with and he built it once and correct the first time,,,i might add that the little bit of stippling and engraving for numbers was done by a fella in springfield ,mass who worked at smith and wesson for years,,, forgot his name