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Ok I have a few views on this subject that I would like to share

2) On the weight issue these days with all the modern electric gadgetry and trichery stuff that hunters carry in their day packs adds up to more weight carried needlessly than the diference in weights of rifles. Also 1/2 pound of extra weight in a pair of hunting boots will do more to create a crook back and fatigue than carrying the 1/2 to 1 pound extra in a hunting rifle .

Don,t think I need much more than these 2 loads to hunt anything on the planet.

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Personally think another item many dont think about..loose that extra 5 to 10 lbs off the belly..makes quite a difference as well..

As to the .416 caliber..think it is incredible..however my brand is .416 Rem.---dont think it makes much of a difference--I have 2 loads as well using Barnes solids and SWift A-Frames --both in 400 grains and both shoot to the same POI...makes it really hand...and yes both are around 2450 fps..and you can hunt anything on this planet..

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