For me It’s not so much a recoil issue as it is more of a $ issue. As I have looked about the 416 Rigby is a bear in terms of ammo and I would like to use the rifle quite a bit. But so to is the 404, as Dies are about 3x the money. I put in an order for the 375 just because I could get a very good price of $600 shipped to my FFL. At that price the guy was out of 416 otherwise I would have gone that rout. (Funny thing I have not heard from man selling yet and no $ has changed hands…so Ill wait for a day or two thin the look will be on again) Ill keep you all posted. Thanks for the input.