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Quote: Bob I really wasn't going after you either--sorry if it seems as so..that is one of the problems with this source of communication..never really know the voice inflection and actual nature of the statements.. Agree with you totally---if the 458W was such a dog, everyone PH and his mother wouldn't be carrying one..I have one as well which will probably go with me the next time I head over... there was actually an article I posted recently on this site regarding this exact thing--believe it was from an interview "RELOADER" magazine had with a former retired employee of the reloading arm for Winchester....who stated with the jerky movement of their equipment at the time, many cases lost powder before the bullet was seated -so the full charge was not in many rounds... Not taking anything away form the Lott--great round..but, IMHO, so is the Winchester... Take care and be well... Ripp |