Plus if you wait and look at guns america they can be had for a deal the cz in 505 and 500 even ahr they have a custom built jeffrey a 416 rigby for 3900 client failure to pay also a 600 overkill for 4900 same deal its all about if your willing to wait to see what is out there but as i was saying ive seen the 505s and 500 czs go for 1900 within the past 3 months deals can be had you just have to look