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Quote: FYI--there isn't any major manufacturer in the 1990's or today that isn't doing the same thing..seriously, are you going to tell me Ruger,Winchester, Sako or any other manufacturer other than the custom shops do anything than "just crank them out"?. How about the $17. barrels Ruger was putting on their rifles for a while?? Or has anyone shot a Sako lately that actually shoots under a 2" group.? How about the last few years of the Model 70 Winchester..saw a couple that almost needed a hammer to close the bolt..Went through 5 new Weatherby ligtweights, all in .257 caliber..tried to find 1 that would shoot withing their 1 1/2" criteria...none would do it..finally took a Remington action and had a Hart barrel put on it--presto...1/2" at 100 yards gun... My point is, if you want real quality anymore in today's "throw away society", IMO, you need to go custom ...but the "junk" being mass produced will still do the job..may need a bit of work but if that is what you want, go for it... I own all of the above and CZ's to boot..can honestly say, the CZ's are by FAR the roughest I have ever bought..but, with work, are also very accurate..hell, my CZ in 204 shoots every bit as accurate as my Cooper..and for 1/2 the price.. Can say however, have never had a Remington, Winchester or any other firearm where the cartridge it was designed for did NOT chamber the round..that is inexcusable to say the least... Ripp |