[quote) The article I didn't mention in the 'RIFLE' and perhaps the best one, was by Ganayana - a topic which comes up here more often than any other and with so much emotion, too.
The sentence which says it all is on page 77 where he says a client does not need a stopping rifle - he needs a hunting rifle and one he and the rifle are capable of putting a bullet into the vitals from any angle. Thus we have the great 9.3x62 and the .375. Oh, there are others, but these two have become favourites of mine as well, if not exactly, at least in performance. He also adresses the normal poor shooting of the clients - I am not pointing fingers, but those who only shoot factory ammo are suspect. Such are my findings in short 30 years I've been guiding.

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Darryl,

Not sure if you read the thread a week or two ago regarding .416 vs 458 vs, etc...but that is the article I quoted as well..which, in my experience the solid out of the .416 Rem, as does the .375, has substantial penetration..more than the larger slower calibers...

BUT, see the view of needing the stopping rifle as well..on my brown bear hunt in AK, I dropped a brown bear with the first shot out of a .375, he dropped, roared and got up again and started to run-- the guide fired a shot out of his .458 and completely missed by a substantial amount on the running shot..thankfully I was able to get another into the bear as he was heading into the brush..

Same for elephant, when the **** hits the fan, I feel more comfortable in counting on myself versus someone else...

Ah, yes,,,so many guns, so little time...

Ripp