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That's nice thing about them, easy to load and in the cup they don't lead the barrel. Slug and wad don't look like much but lot of guys say they are accurate. Here is a Savage 210 with bottom of action opened up toward the back, to take cases with 3.5" overall length. Slug Warrior on Shotgun World did it. Is similiar job the Brett in MN did, but he made his opening 3.7". I measured mine and they can be opened to 3.95". They also milled the rim guides back for controlling case feeding on longer cases. Ed |