Yes I ve seen the Lloyd guns, there were 2 in the Holts sale in June or september I cant remember which. One I think a 375 and the other a 458 from memory. I am not sure if they are still in business. I certainly wouldent have wanted to grab for the bolt handle in an emergency ouch!

They made I think suprising money, not that much short of the 375 McMilllen in the same sale which, though not my taste in finish, was a very nice working rifle. I think that was a case of England 0 USA 1

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