Shackleton
I have a New England (HR),that I have fitted a 500Ne 3-1/4 barrel on ! With full nitro loads & 570gr it,s a little silly in the recoil department and not needed to play with so I now use Nitro for Black loads ,recoil seems light now !
A while back I had T/C Contender 12in 45/70 , with hot hand loads this has savage recoil also ,even factory loads are stiff ! a LOT more than a 44 Mag !