Marrakai, thanks for the heads up! I havent had anything to do with Ruger number 1's, but does their stock design make them particuly hard kickers, or are they just light? I have typed in some numbers into a recoil calculator, and apparently my 11 pound CZ is kicking with 70 odd ft lbs, and the 650 grain bullet at 2000 fps from a 13 pound gun kicks with 77 ft lbs. I dont find the Rigby to be bothersome when shooting in field possisions, and can get 10 shots off sitting at a bench before I have to leave it for 10 minutes, before comming back to it.

Has anyone had anything to do with instock recoil reducers? My uncle has a couple spare from his shotgun shooting, would one of these be able to help tame the recoil? I will have a talk with a gunsmith tomorrow who does lots of work with big rifles, so he may also be able to offer some help as to ways of making a ruger heavier.

thanks for the help

Steve