(re:quigleysharps) atkinson6, I'm confused I guess. I've never mentioned a 10" plate. Some specifically said they did. Now after all of this was said, I mentioned I used plates and bowling pins. Now if you're comparing my bowling pins at 200yds. to a barn door, now that's a pretty small target with iron sights and I'd like to know what you consider a good target at that range? Cause now you are telling dasMafia his 6" groups at 100yds. will get him by and he's now better than most. Line me out here cause I'm really confused!