A 10" plate??? Not in my opinnion, if your 25 years old with good eyes, then your a man with a mans responsibilty,and you are obligated to shoot a 4" group off hand at 100 yards with a scope and 6"s with iron sights in my opine...You owe it to the animals to learn to shoot, anyone can do that if they apply themselves....

If a man is going to be a hunter then for Gods sake learn to shoot, to much of this well thats OK if you can hit a barn door, going around, I have no patience with those who do not learn this skill and yet continue to hunt and probably wound game...I see game wounded every year by dunder heads who cannot shoot.

Sorry, if I offend but thats the way I feel....no quarter on my part, its a passion with me.