DDouble
(.300 member)
27/04/06 01:08 AM
Re: To cull or not to cull, easy bloody question!

- COW BEHAVIOUR
The greatest TRAUMA an elephant cow could have is to starve!!! OVERPUPULATION has shown to make elephant cows KILL THEIR BABIES!!! If they are intelligent and have great memories, can you imagine the devastating effect of killing your own doughters to save water and food for yoursel, in front of their older sisters??????????????

- NON-CONSUMPTIVE
Erik, a study in the Selous states that you need over 20 photographic safaris to achieve the same financial benefit to the communities, thus having a far greater environmental impact. I will try to find the website address.

- HUMANI ELEPHANTS
Elephants of Humani are totally crazy! I only bowhunted there twice, mainly by stalking, and it was really dangerous to walk around with a recruve and only Choice carrying a pistol to scare the ele!!

Humani elephants came from a culled NP herd and thus are extremely dangerous and cannot be trusted. They are not wild animals, but orphans raised in a ranch. Not nice.

THE KENYA "SCIENTISTS"
Some authors Steve mentioned, STATE things in their books which are not scientific and not even WILD GUESSES. This is particularly true for some "tree huggers" so called "biologists" from Kenya who always make points about Zim and other hunted elephant herds that are pure speculations. And whatever they say National Geographic Documentaries transform in DOGMA. One of them is that hunted elephants are traumatized.

Traumatized is an elephant with a lion on the back of its baby, with nothing to eat, raiding shambas, being chased by villagers at night with fire, hitting eletric fences, stepping on metal spikes put by farmers, etc, etc.

Animals don't know what the intentions are, so it is certain they are far more traumatized when chased by helicopters and then darted to put a radio-collar than to have someone quietly stalk and shot you in the brain.

Hunters should shoot the elephants, cows or bulls, and lets have 50% of the tags left for the AFRICAN people, because we need them to hunt, to keep their hunting heritage. Even if it only impala. This is the most important. They should not be outcompeted and made into non-hunters. Otherwise, when they have the means they will be anti-hunters.

ELEPHANT QUALITY
An elephant cow, a tuskless or a hundred pounder bull may have the same quality. Probably the meat quality and the hide quality of the 100# bull would be the worst of them.

What is quality? An area where natives and hunters are respected in their culture, where all animals, small and big elephants, small and big mammals and birds and tress are all respected and valued, but above all quality is a place where no one species, including HUMANS are perceived as not part of the mix. We should not be made apart of nature, but to be an integral part of this great show of life that has been going for a few billions of years.

Dante



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