While we are talking software parlor games we can have some fun with shooting various guns at charging software animals testing "stopping Power"---

A marlin 45/70 shooting a "stopping shot" at a Buff charge attempt non CNS hit gives only 8452 KP units of "stopping power" vs a 375H&H shooting 13862(150%more s.power)KP units vs a 458WM with 21230 KPunits(250% more s.power).A 45/70 is just going to p*ss the Buff off if I can't do the CNS.

No offense but I am sure going to want the stun effect of the 458 vs the 45/70 if I don't hit the CNS--But worse than that I want to be REALLY HUNTING with that same caliber!!!
Nothing else quite like it or that even comes close!!