Sh-t, that IS funny!!! hahahahaa.... I just remebered that airplane movie to some family members over the weekend. And yes the line we all talked about was the gladiator line... hahhaa.... But getting back to topic---I think my 870 shooting 3 inch mags slugs, kicks considerably sharper and harder than my 300 win mag with 180 grainers and my double barrel slug gun shooting the same 3 innch mag slugs. My 870 even has a 1 inch recoil suppressor pad while my double slug gun has apuny 1/4 inch factory rubber thingy. Both have the same LOP too. Strange, that animal called (felt) recoil.