It is entertaining to discuss (argure about?) this but the original post was about the .375 for elephant.

It would be different if both of us had extensive experience, but that would require hundreds of elephants (or buff, or whatever). All I know is what I have gathered from my limited experience, and do not feel from what I have seen that the .375 H&H is enough gun. I have had reasonably good results with the 416&470&Lott, but consider the 416 the minimum.

It is said in some book that I do not recall at the moment that, in the jess, not a single hunter, hunting by himself, shooting a .375 (in Zimbabwe I think) survived an elephant charge. This is because you cannot see them coming in the jess except at the last moment. The hunter survivability using the 416/458 stuff is about 50 percent.

And if that isn't enough to convince anybody to use enough gun, I don't know what is.