NitroXAdministrator
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15/02/25 04:28 PM
Re: The reality of elephant and human interaction

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At a place I did some culling on, in Namibia the meat was ...

This Game Ranch was the place they filmed the John Wayne movie Hatari.




Are you sure?

Maybe some game scenes?

"Hatari" was made in the "Golden Age of Hollywood Safari movies", when Kenya was king. I'm sure I've read about the movie "Hatari" and the other Hollywood movies of the age, being major outfitter ventures in Kenya. When I find my copy of Bartle Bulls encyclopaedic "Safari", it might refer to "Hatari".

Thanks for your comments on the use of game. In meat hungry Africa, only the urban gooses many buying their shrink wrapped vegan "lab-meat" cannot understand how real people use real meat. Even lion meat.

You've summed up well the different uses of meat. Eaten by the hunters and staff. Given to local villagers. Used as bait. Sold commercially.

Even if some meat was to be left, which is not done, hyenas, jackals, cats, vultures have to eat too. When I lost my one and only lost animal in Africa, a hartebeest. The wife of the land owner said "the carnivores have to eat too.". Or some such term.

I've got a still from the video clearly showing a human in clothing. When he is being swung around by a leg or legs, a arm does flap around. The video isn't good. But even shamba growers seem to have mobile phone cameras now. (I'm assuming)

I've got a copy now of the video. I'll load up. In case farcebook ever deletes it as "violent". The lack of quality of the video has probably saved it from censorship by FB ai so far. I'll load up the still as well.

The video is excellent material as to why sustainable culling is needed to control excess to carrying capacity of elephants in parks. They'll raid outside of parks anyway, but when over populating an area, they will raid a lot. Human food crops get destroyed. How terrible that would be for a poor family. Starvation. And death by elephant is as the video shows aweful.

When hunting Omay on the shores of Lake Kariba, after my first cow elephant cull, we were told of elephants raiding shambas near the ranger station up on the highlands above the escarpment. Alas a cotton bale carrying large truck had tipped over sideways completely blocking the road half way up the escarpment. So we had to turn back. So I never had the experience of hunting the "shamba raiders".



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