Ingwe,

You are trying to make me out to be flip-flopping on this but I am talking about two different situations.

There are different types of charges. These recent buffalo disasters sounded to me like ... boom, the buffalo is there. There was no time to even try to aim. Maybe just enough time for a snap shot. In that case a 458 is going to be better unless you have the presence of mind to pull both triggers simultaneously on the 9.3 double. Is that really going to happen for most tourists?

Then there are charges when you have at least 2 or 3 seconds to shoot, when you a chance at getting off two aimed shots.

In any case you cannot make the 9.3 politically correct. At 3800 ft-lbs or less compared to something close to 5000 ft-lbs for the 458, they are not equal for any single shot.