buffalo01
(.224 member)
31/07/10 12:00 AM
Re: Reference: Willem van Deventer

I accidently came accros these notes on the net and would like to rectify some irregularities concerning Mr Van Deventer.

First thing is Mr Van Deventer is a registered PH and Outfitter in both South Africa and Mozambique. He is the owner of properties including hunting areas in Mozambique. He is currently doing PAC controll for the government departments and he is doing non trophy hunts, trophy hunts and every now and then hunt problem animals with clients. Mr Freischuets, the fucker as you put it is in Mozambique and he would like to meet you. Let me just help you with a couple of issues.


*What did this @%$#*& offer this year? We would like to catch him in Mozambique doing his shady business!

Why don’t you report him to the agricultural department? It’s been 2 years that you post bullshit on the Internet. Go to the department of Agriculture in Matola and mention his name. They will show you a stack of papers authorising him to take out problem animals in Mapulungwene, Moamba and and and…. This includes Lion, Elephant, buffalo, Crocodile, Hippo and more. He covers an area of over 5 million hectares.

I guess you are not the farmer loaning money and the Elephant come and destroy your crops. Or do you dart the Elephant and move it?

I guess you do have some solution for crocodiles that kills children too? Maybe you put them in some sort of cage. And what do you do to the Lion that killed a mother right in front of her kid? I remember the community asking to use the mother as bait to get to the Lion that killed over 16 people. Maybe you do have some answer to that.

*Last year they advertised “Big 4 Problem animal hunt s for November and December in Mozambique s Niassa, Cabo Delgado and Tête province s for 60 odd thousand USD

I guess any client falling for a Us$ 60 000.00 PAC hunt will be considered unwise. You are confused to some degree with Trophy hunts, Non trophy hunts and PAC. If a hunting license is in your possession you can sell the animal as a trophy animal or as a non trophy animal. Non trophy animal can include a problematic animal as long as you stay within you designated hunting area. Nothing to argue about.

I guess you control all the hunting areas in Mozambique so you would know exactly where Mr Van Deventer are allowed to hunt and where not. You also issue the trophy licenses for all hunters in Mozambique so you would know what he is/was allowed to hunt. Mr Freischuets, go bullshit children not the general public/hunting community.

*They advertised at www.huntinafrica.com as white Buffalo Safari s Pemba Mozambique
the phone number I got is +27 11 4541483

Hunt in Africa was taken to court for false advertisement. Mr van Deventer is no longer associated with them. The tellephone number is incorrect.

*These PAC hunts are illegitimate and the outfitter is not licensed to offer hunt's in Mozambique

You can lie. I don’t know how to put this. I believe your mind is all about how to boost your own ego. I will keep this post one side. One day you might have the guts to tell Mr van Deventer who you are. Believe me he would like to meet you and laugh in your face. It’s not worth the energy to even commend on your lies.

*As to lion control work in Mozambique BS

What do you know? I must put it to you this way,

http://www.wildlife-conservation.org/var...87d1dada814.pdf

Go read page 28-31. It’s worth it to read the full report.

Now to get back to Mr van Deventer.

You say:

PAC. (Problem animal hunts), all problem animal control in Mozambique required the official written authorisation. This is normally given to the government game scouts or in some cases to the concession holder is ask to assist or take care of the animal in question, this have to be done intermediately and not after weeks or months! Any offer for problem animal control hunts to be booked in advance is at least questionable.

I say:

Mr van Deventer do have written authorisation and not by a game scout/fiscal. His authorisation is from the department of agriculture, signed by the governor of the relevant province, the administrator of every specific area, the police and agricultural department of the specific area, the head of the village and in some cases border police. Gamescouts can not authorise these hunts.

You say:

The true motivation for the “creation” of most problem animals is as follow: Lots of meat(locals) and very welcome bonus income for the PH, outfitter, concession holder and “official” .

I say:

Is Lion meat that tasty. I recall discarding all lion Caucasus. Damn, I still want to see the guy who kills a lion for meat.

Mr van Deventer is currently funding these PAC program out of his pocket in numerous districts. Now according to the Laws of Mozambique which is below what he does is totally legal:

SECTION VI
Hunting for defence of people and goods

ARTICLE 68

Requirements

1) The following constitute the requirements for the exercise of hunting in defence of people
and goods

a) The existence of an actual or imminent attack by wild animals on persons or goods
b) The impossibility of driving away one or more animals which are persecuting or
attacking people or goods
An imminent attack is considered to be when one or more wild animals are heading for
or have entered property or dwelling areas with strong indications that they may attack
the people and goods existing there

2) For the effect of No. 1 the impossibility to drive away animals is considered to exist when
dealing with dangerous animals, or others which are not dangerous when they will not
move even despite the employment of methods considered to be the norm for driving away
that particular species

3) Goods is taken to mean human life, agriculture, domestic animals, dwellings, vehicles and
other items of economic value or social relevance

4) The hunting referred to in this article is not subject to closed seasons nor to the limitations
and restrictions defined for hunting activities

ARTICLE 69

Competent entities

1) Those competent to carry out the type of hunting referred to above in defence of people and
goods are specialised brigades which should comprise inspectors or other functionaries
from that sector (SPFFB), community agents assisting the inspectors, professional hunters
and community hunters

2) In terms of the previous number those assisting the inspectors, the professional hunters, and
community hunters may, together with the SPFFB request that they are authorised to hunt in defence of people and goods


Now I am going to put the records strait. You say you step on people’s toes. Be careful to step on the wrong toes. You’ve been in Africa since 1983. That is many years short of most of us. Mr van Deventer was born in Africa, Kinangob, Kenya to be exact. At the age of 12 he was already doing PAC on his dads corn and weed farms close to the Aberdares and Hunted the Mara (Today the Masai Mara) The Game Farm on the Thika produced 170lbs/167lbs Elephant tusks. Mr van Deventer has been in Africa for 62 years and in that 62 years he has never been in an incident with any animal, never been trampled by a buffalo/Elephant, not one incident. Then you came along. I should mention to you, you did step on the wrong toes.

Now if anybody wants to see paperwork (Trophy, non trophy and PAC), signatures, authorisation, hunting licenses, Mozambican PH papers, outfitters license, company registration in Mozambique, quota issued to Mr van Deventer, rifle imports for Mr van Deventer and clients, Trophy licenses you are more than welcome to e-mail me at buffalosafaris@aol.com. Now just to make you aware of who I am, I am the fuckers son and I am the person funding government departments in Mozambique. I do not need to be the owner of a hunting concession in Mozambique to do hunts, I just need a registered hunting business and registered Private hunting land. I think I have enough of that. And no I don’t bribe officials. I guess that will be your next point. I just keep my dad busy with things he love and live for.

One last thing. In the Kruger National Park is a Neels Steenkamp. He tried to interfere with our PAC program. Tried to intimidate my dad over the border from KNP. If you ever meet him ask him what happened to him.

I am not threatening anybody, I am just here to show you how we work.

Jaco v Deventer


Please note that I made my point and I am not going to argue about anything. I don't need this type of publicity.




“In this day and age it would be quite an achievement to have "come from lion-control work" which would be I would think is not so common today”



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