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The only animals in Africa I have really had coming were elephant on the last hunt...and there were numerous occurrences at that..shot my tuskless at 17 yards...did have a couple of lioness's growl and stand their ground at 14 yards one afternoon which was also an adrenaline rush... As to buff in Africa..my first buff, after taking 5 shots from the .416..one soft--rest solids...attempted to get up when we walked up on him from the rear.he was laying flat on the ground, legs outstretch initally..but was up and at it suprisingly fast .at about 4 yards..I quickly placed another shot between the shoulder blades as he was on his front legs..which hit the spine and that was that... Your experience with cattle reminded me of my youth..grew up on a dairy farm in N Dakota--and in my opinion, there in not a whole lot more obstinate, mean, pissed off animal than a holestein bull --we also had angus and others which, once in a while, would get together--and all heck would break loose--however the holstein would ALWAYS come at you --trying to chase--and they would they never, too my knowledge, had their noses upward...head was normally down..they would attempt to get you on the ground and grind you--which happened occassionally and actually some farmers not surviving the end result...we had some that would actually chase you in a tractor when you were feeding them...which was not very smart on their part..but they were crazy, especially when a cow was in heat.. I have seen and watched many movies on African buff..and have asked quite a few PH's their take..I have been told the same--that they normally do have their nosed upward and to fire one right up the snout..which should sort it all out..the infamous "Black Death" videos I believe also show the same.. Guess I will wait and see if it ever happens I guess I would fire one up the snout, and provided I had a double in my hand, save the last shot until he was almost on me and fire where I saw fit.. And yes, did get my desk cleaned up... Ripp |