what were the two organizations,and why are two players in the conservation game fighting like children.......like we dont have enough problems already with the anti groups we have to fight among ourselves,sci, dallas ,rowland and ward, rmef,du,nwtf,ect ect ect.i for one will miss them at sci i belong to both and believe both are good but it seems like a power display to me just like two bucks the old buck and the new rival what a shame.................