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Yes I would not take a 45/70 after Ele by choice ,if it was all I had ? no problem to kill one with it, a BIG Bull in charge front on ,not so happy at all ,but what size would make a person happy in that situation ?
I have used & seen the 458 Win used on a lot of game it works very well !
I can not image a 480gr to 500 gr 45 Cal solid @ 2000 fps not going though a Ele brain !I think those stories are mistakes or tales from poeple who have not use it, or used it badly then blamed the cartrigde !
I helped cull some Ele (cows & small bulls )the 458 Win swatted them down ,I did not do so well with 375 H&H ,would do better now days with more experience I think !