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i see my point dident come across, so i will try again. i know that it is a sensetive area for all you NORTH AMERICANS ![]() yes daryl a lot of the NEs are from bpe but not every bpe became a full nitro, of all the 450 bpe's, they chose the longest one to make the 450 ne. why because of the pressure, i presume. i cant see the reason why people keep pushing the 45-70 other than the shells are cheap, and that is a poor reason to get blown up in my book. regards peter |