If anybody here is saying "It won't work!" my question is "How do you know?"

I mean, I don't hear Daryl stating that the heavily loaded .45-70 is the "greatest buff cartridge on earth", and I know I am not.

But to criticise a guy's experimentation {that seemed to work OK by the way} without any field reports otherwise seems to be a weak argument. I say if a fellow can get a PH to let him, test the .45-70 extensively and then let's find out how it does. I simply do not know as I have not read much about heavy-loaded .45-70's on heavy African game.

My point is that I would love to see Daryl's or Sam's loads tested on a number of big critters and then maybe an argument could be made for or against it.

I was thinking that one of the Aussies here had some {not so good?} experiences with heavy-loaded .45-70's but maybe my memory is unclear on that point. I'd love to hear from others with pro and con reports. I myself am undecided. I have shot a lot of cast 400-420 grain bullets in a variety of media and they penetrate surprisingly well. I must dig out my records, as IIRC, my 402 grain HP load penetrated as far as the recent premium .375 loads tested. I'll check and report later.

Oh, yeah, Peter...Daryl is doing a great job of stumping for the .45-70 but he ain't from the US...