Thats the sort of reply i wanted mate.....from someone that actually uses the calibre and not just pasting from another site..............thanks for your extended reply,i do know about the holow points caper as i have pushed quite a few lightweight hp`s out of my 7mmag up rabbits etc and into roo chest cavities or taken their heads off too.....

Have you ever thought of writing to Woodleigh bullets and giving them your thoughts on their overexpanding projectiles? I`m sure they would welcome such feedback and adddress the situation too by improving their product for use such as yours.