| Ripp |
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| 29/07/22 04:55 AM |
Re: 10 Best Long-Range Hunting Cartridges
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6.5x55 hands down wipes the latest fad 6.5 wannabes.
Don't agree with that.. I'll take the PRC over the 6.5x55.. better case design, 10% more powder.. handles the heavy for caliber bullets without giving up much case volume .. and is wicked accurate.. IF the 6.5x55 was all that it would have been picked up by now by the long range circuit.. but nope.. still just a moose slayer in Europe..
6.5x55 with proper factory ammunition or handloaded has superior ballistics to the 6.5 Creedmoor. But doesn't sell rifles.
My comparison above was with the PRC not the Creedmoor.. the PRC has 10% larger case capacity than the 6.5x55..so, ballistically superior in design and performance..
Having said that, there is a reason, as I stated above, that the long distance shooting crowd has chosen and sticks with the Creedmore vs the 6.5x55.. AS a collective group, they are constantly in search of an advantage.. if the 6.5x55 had one they would be there.. on steel, some things more important than sheer velocity..I am guessing part of it is in order to capitalize to max potential with the new longer, sleeker, heavy for caliber bullets with a 6.5x55 it becomes difficult to use a short action. The Creedmoor is more user friendly in that department and does allow for a short action while still seating those long bullets way out...
Short action = stiffer action=greater accuracy potential..
The old M96/M38 Swedish Mausers, ex-mikitary are fantastically accurate. How much more accuracy is possible? Mine shoots ball FMJ "ex-mill" Target ammo finless than one calibre 3 shot groups. Long 140 gr projectiles. The cartridge handles 160 gr projectiles. Better velocity than the Creedmoor.
Original cartridge 127 years old = winner
Handles long 6.5 mm projectiles, as it was designed to do = winner.
Better velocity than the Creedmoor = winner
Better accuracy than wannabe Creedmoor rifles = winner.
All in a "$100" rifle, no $8000 specialist rifle needed from the advertising makers = winner winner winner winner winner!
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You must have gone to work for CNN??:) Making up your own facts?? I see you posted an article this morning by Petzal..he has a slightly diff take on the comparison.. for your review..
https://www.fieldandstream.com/story/guns/6-5-creedmoor-vs-the-6-5-55-swedish/
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The only reason the Creedmoor is popular is excessive promotion. Go back a handfull of years and Americans, most, didn't understand the 6.5 mm at all. -
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NOT TRUE.. It was out numerous years before it did catch on..and it was the new lr steel game that gave it legs.. Nothing to understand when, for what we mainly hunted, had better cartridges already.. not like the 6.5 is a miracle pill.. 7mm Rem and 300Win to name 2 ..along with the 30-06..
As for the PRC cartridge? Don't care. The Creedmoor was on the list. Don't care for the PRC either. Peoples Republic of Congo? --
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Same in how I feel about the 6.5x55..impossible for me to care any less .. better options now available..
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I don't care for extreme long range target shooting at game animals either. Unethical, irresponsible. I think the Austrian standards should apply. Two black crosses on one's hunting licence, loose it for life.
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THIS topic has been covered until nauseam... IF you are not able to shoot far then so be it.. OR if its against your personal code, whatever.. don't let your inabilities be a detriment to others.. My last two ibex hunts resulted in an animal trotting up the mtn side at 365 yards.. one shot with the 280AI, dead.. Same in Turkey.. only he was a little over 400 trotting through the timber..waiting for him to hit a clearing, again one shot from the 280AI, done. have done the same with dozens of elk from 200 to right at 600.. could care less what others personal choices and abilities are frankly.. my give a fuck button broke a long time ago..
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Shooting targets at long range is cool. I may have to do it soon. Maybe? I'll tell it if it happens. I'll send a PM.
Sniping at humans in war at very long range, is also completely different. Cruelty andcwar go together.
Btw NitroExpress.com is about vintage rifles, cartridges etc. When the original is still the best, after 127 years, it's the standard for the wannabes to pretend to stand against.
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Original is the best in a fantasy world perhaps but not in reality.. I'll take the experience of tens of thousands of lr shooters here in the US over an opinion with no facts to support it..but that's just me..