Ripp...I agree completely about the .257 Weatherby. Have had a couple and it is a wonderfully flat shooting cartridge that really thumps deer and speed goats. Used it quite a bit when I live in Alberta or hunted down in WY and MT for antelope. Now that I am back in British Columbia I usually carry something with a bigger hole in the end of the barrel as I spend most of my time hunting in northern BC or points north for moose, etc. But if I ever get to go back antelope hunting in my two favourite states I will undoubtedly be carry the .257 Bee.