| Rule303 |
| (.450 member) |
| 21/02/21 02:50 PM |
Re: The Winchester-model-70
|
Quote:Quote:Quote:Quote:
Nice looking rifle Patagonhunter.
I have never liked the M70. Simply because of the fit,and lack of safety from escaping gas. Fit could be fixed and so could the bolt handle (looks only). However those I know who have them love them and most shoot well.
The 30-06 is a great cartridge case for making .270,35 Whelan, 338-06 etc. Tried one once and it did nothing my old 303 wouldn't do and did nothing for me. Yet I like the 308, go figure, I can't. Mind you 30 cal is the least used of my collection now. The old M94 in 30-30 used to get used a lot in my younger day.
Yes the M98's and M17/P14's have a slow lock time. The M70 sits between these and the Rem 700.
SO, what am I missing???
I stopped by a local gun shop on my weekly route.. they had M98 sitting there on the shelf.. so, I grabbed it .. worked it a bit, looked at it.. as you state on the M70, it did nothing for me as well..
NOT trying to start a waron NE because I am not enamored by the M98 action.. merely want to to know what others are seeing that I am not..
Perhaps I am just a country hick that doesn't enjoy some of life's finer items..
Not missing anything. Took a long time for the M98 action-and its copies- to be liked by me. Just traveling to the beat of another drum.
A proper M98 is reliable but clunky to cycle when compared to a lot of modern actions. In military form it is heavier then needs be for a sporter.
I believe a lot of people are hoodwinked by some of the adulation written about the M98 that are simply not true. Most center around the CRF.
Fooey. Some simply have no sense of taste and style. Good reliable and dependable is the answer.
While I have a Mauser M03 for DG hunting as well, that CRF stuff has some relevance. When a case do not eject because of an inadequate ejector, and the buffalo or elephant is bearing down on you, you will reject that modern pathetic rifle than cycles more smoothly.A reason I prefer a double rifle anyway.
The guys that harp on the internet endlessly about how ONLY A CRF is adequate, however, need to get off the armchair and into the field more often.
Not phooey at all. I have experienced every failure with a CFR M98 that is said to be impossible. Double feeding, failure to extract, dropping cartridge case into the action, failure to pick up cartridge, bolt jamming on forward and rearward cycle, you name it Ive had it or been with some one when they have had the failure. Reliable, No. Dependable, No. To be these things the M98 may need work to ensure it. When that is done then it is both. Most come that way but some do not or fail due to a lot of use.
Like I said a lot of hype is put out there by those who just plain do not know. Yes this includes many PH's because they have never seen a dud M98 or copy there of. For many years I thought those who depended on the M98 for their and others lives were idiots. Took a lot of years and a couple of very knowledgeable gents to show me why the M98's would have those failures.
So a good reliable M98 or clone to me makes the best choice of a bolt action for DG. A double is just as likely to fail as a bolt action. Nothing man makes is perfect.