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At the time I was thinking of heading to Africa, late 70's, in a conversation to Elmer Keith, he suggested I should work with the Lyman #562560 mould I was having good results with & getting 1,960fps with the 560gr. bluff nosed bullet. Energy wise, that's 4,778fpe from the .458 2". the .450 Marlin and .45/70 will do the same, from a decent bolt gun, as long as they have a bit of a leade, maybe 1/4" to 3/10".

Cast of WW hardened to brinel 30, he said it would definitely break both shoulders of ANY cape buffalo and find the brain of any bull elephant. When I told him the overall loaded length of my ammo, he noted it was more of a .458 on a 2.4" case, than a 2" case. I had to agree of course as my chamber had a 3/8" freebore or leade.

I haven't made it to Africa, yet. Oh well.

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Last I checked you can still hunt buffalo Daryl..its never too late..