Solid well built rifles. I have handled the a few times and the scopes are very low mounted which helps. Often the turrets to adjust scope have been removed - but then once sighted the whole idea was that it should n't move. The scope mount clamps both the scope and the action and is very strong, and is either very elegant or pig ugly depending on your point of view. Its less ugly to my mind than a pica tinny rail on a fine rifle.

Interesting Article

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/rifle/david-lloyd-rifle