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Thank you Homer and Ash.. Yes my thoughts are much less weight and hassle if they work out...I have visited with a few who have used them 10 years or more and love them. Starting out with a 300 Win Mag and 375H&H..if they work well will expand from there. Plan to use them for the next few trips..however when headed to African will probably take one of the 375 H&H's and my WR 470 double..have to take the double to Africa, just have to.. Ripp |