John:

Have you actually had a chance to look at the Leupold iteration of a German No. 4 reticle? If so, what do you think of it?

I have two of them and for dark and dim conditions they are great, BUT...

If they are still making them the same way {mine are a few years old}, they have very thick crosshairs. Not at all like a Swarovski, Zeiß, Burris, etc version of the #4.

Some who have looked thru my rifles HATE the reticle. I do not recall what it subtends at 100, but I want to say something like 2 inches. Maybe a little more?

Anyway, just a headsup.

I really like the "Wide Crosshair" setup tophet shows us, but I've never seen that "graticle" available here, or maybe I just missed it?