FB404- I remember now, we had a discussion on the 8x68S -with some loads my friend uses. His loads sound soft compared to what I'm seeing here.

The 8x68S has a WONDERFUL case. When the Ruger .375 was first anounced, it was thought and reported they used the 8x68S case. Of course, we now know that wasn't true.

The neat thing, is they can be made, fully functional, using the long belted mag. cases - .416, .8mm or .375. The WTBY cases can be reluctant to open up if a very long tapered plunger isn't used.

I was hunting with Keith once, when he polaxed a huge cow moose at just over 200yards. She was standing in some high willow, and Keith held for the frontal low neck shot. The 196gr. Plastic tip Norma, smashed the spine on the bottom curve - of course, she dropped straight down. Dry cows make good freezer fillers.