500 Nitro - re: ADI powders. We've been using the ADI powders, listed as Hodgdon 'Extreme' for some time now. Nothing new there. It sounds as if there is a newer powder yet, however they may be finding the short fat cases don't lose as much velocity per inch as longer cases in the same performance range, thus are using this fact to normal advertizing advantage for something calimed as new.

Hornady may be talking about some new VVN powders - similar to those being used in the Light and Heavy magnum loads.

In the past Hornady has mostly been above board with this sort of stuff, bring out new stuff, like tube magazine pointed bulelts & they might just be on to something with a new powder - maybe not. Before passing judgment, I'd rather give them the benefit of the doubt.

For years, they supplied bullets for my .17, when no one else would make them. They even brought out a new weight after my pestering them for a year, then wrote me personally with "your bullet dream has come true - thankyou". I didn't expect that. I like their dies, I like their bullets, I like their personal 'touch'. I like to see them succeed.