Nitro i certainly wasnt knocking this cal as in the right place or hands it would do the job on most if not all game,its just that using what i have puts `em down for the returns of mild recoil,ease of use,ammo available everywhere,projectiles in all sizes and is suited to a lot more game here in Oz, also suited for shooting a lot,hence me saying no use here at least for me.Yes i would have one in my rack for that unexpected trip overseas if somebody wants to donate one but there is nothing in Australia that I WANT that i cant take now mate.