FYI, I'm not saying that they (Remington's) don't shoot - they do and I know a lot are sold.

The problem is with the build quality. A couple of guns I took apart had rust in the magazine well - spring etc. These were brand new guns straight out of the box.

The stocks on some of the current Remington's are crap.

And the price paid for them hasn't come down (that much) but the quality has.

Tikka T3 is a very good, value for money rifle.