On ya Caprivi. There has been so much written in the last few years and it is getting worse about long range hunting which is not hunting at all, It is sniping. As Caprive and a couple on the parent thread have said the calibers that have always worked will always work when used by HUNTERS. I am not against a long shot but when that is the criteria with which a cartridge is judged I think something is lost from the hunting precess. Just my opinion though.