I'm sorry John. I don't really understand something. It seems (maybe I was wrong, it's the i-net after all) that something bugged you besides cubs (juveniles, whatever the species might be) which you above said you'd shoot if necessary, but I'm not sure what it was. Our predators here are not any longer just stock killers but even those are very serious issues. Those issues here are developing into something much more. So cubs or adults, I understand both approaches. It seems you do, too, but I'm not sure the details.