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8x57J - NOT the old Gew.88 bore. A derived standard for civil rifles only. See later correspondence. Note the use of J, not I, to avoid confusion with the number 1. Bore / Groove 7.80 / 8.07 mm = 0.307 / 0.318 8x57JS - the "classic" Gew. 98 /Kar 98. S stands for "Spitzer" bullet, already mentioned in previous posts. Bore / Groove 7.89 / 8.20 mm = 0.311 / 0.323 8x50R - the original Austrian Mannlicher miltary caliber. Most altered to 8x56R M30S Bore / Groove 7.95 / 8.35 = 0.313 / 0.329 8x56R M89 Portuguese Kropatschek. Sometimes confused with the Hungarian 8x56 (below). Bore / Groove 7.85 / 8.20 = 0.309 / 0.323 8x56R M30S - the later Hungarian M(odel 19)30 S(pitzer) caliber. Bore / Groove 7.95 / 8.35 = 0.313 / 0.329 https://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=60101&page=1 So a modern 244 gr .329 or .330 might be used per some references. Originally a lesser calibre projectile eg .324 was used, but the base somehow expanded to .329. ??? A .329 244 gr at approx 2000 fps. The 8x50R was used as it feed through the magazine and no change to the bolt head. ??? Edited, I see you posted in between. Thanks. |