lancaster
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04/03/14 06:38 PM
Re: Pics of the day - Asia




Vietnam



a very knowledgable guy there http://animalsversesanimals.yuku.com/topic/2274/ON-THE-EDGE-OF-EXTINCTION-PART-I-tigers?page=33

Vietnam (close to Da Lat) - Large male shot by the woman who was to be Oggeri's partner. It was the only tiger she shot. The tiger (adult male) was estimated at 550 pounds and 10 feet and 6 inches 'over curves' by Oggeri, but I suspect his judgement was influenced by factors of a very different nature. It was, no question, a large male with a big skull. Compare the markings with the animals from southern Malaysia and Burma (see this thread). Very different in a number of ways.

Many Vietnam tigers seem to have pale coats with less, but broader, stripes. In many Vietnam animals (adult males), the skulls are quite large and wide. Wider than in other regions of south-east Asia. It seems to be a consistent character in many.


Vietnam
Hunter and tiger. Although a bit upgraded for the picture, it's clear the tiger was a large one.





Centre of the southern part of Vietnam. Male (shot somewhere between 1930-1960). Lean and long.







In this post, two photographs from Lt.-Col. Locke's book on 'Tigers in Terengganu' (was discussed earlier), one unknown and one from Oggeri (the last one). Compare the tigers in the pictures with those posted in the previous post.

Than try to understand why biologists, some time ago, decided all tigers between Johore (southern tip of Malaysia), the northern tip of Burma (Myanmar), Perak (north-western part of Malaysia), Thailand, Cambodja, Laos, Vietnam and the south-eastern tip of China were Panthera tigris corbetti. I would get to a non-diagnosis.

Johore was granted a new status (Panthera tigris jacksioni), but it seems the other regions also deserve a review. Too many consistent differences in marking, average size and skull.


1 - Two independant, but immature females from Terengganu (cattle lifters, measuring 7.4 and 7 feet 3 inches 'between pegs'). Immature, but relatively long (short tails), tall and lanky (probably below 100 kg.). This seems to be common in that area (Johore, Negri Sembilan and Terengganu). Tigers in Perak, however (also Malaysia) are very different (longer, heavier and thick-set).




Adult male shot in April 1951 (Jerangau man-eater - 8 feet 6 inches 'between pegs'). A short, but powerful animal. And well short of 400 pounds.




Two Vietnamese and a very old male tiger on a stretcher (...).



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