Thanks folks I think I might give them a go the shooetrs warehouse in Canberra has them at a good price $45 per 100.

Nitro X I have not had that much to do with Taipans I had about a dozen here in .416 calibre, I shot a cat at 10 yards and the outcome was predictable to say the least (he exceeded his dimensions) They certainly are priced right, how do they go on pigs ??