Tar Jack for the reply hahahaa,let me tell ya Les old fella it wasnt me called that out to you in India in the 70`s,never been a sailor only worked on cray and shark boats.Les makes me wonder why you entertain the idea of Eildon this time of year as generally speaking the deer leave Big River arm for higher places,they will flog the berries in AUG/Sept but then dissapear on masse,i have had a few looks even in summer while on fishing trips but jeez mate hard to find a friggn mark then,up top on Torbrek is where you will find em mate.........to hard, too hot though the m.i l. tells me its Vics coldest OCT for 30 years so you never know eh? One thing for certain if its too hot the VB will be king eh!