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Thanks for the feed back. I was told that there is problems with floor plates opening and dumping the mag as a result of recoil.This and the reason that I like to be prepared with a backup mag already loaded. I shoot almost every day as part of my work,so I would consider myself as a decent shot. Most 458 lott's are only 2-3 shot mags and the 416 rem mag are 4 shot.I would hope that 4 shots would be plenty, but 2-3 shots and then have to reload near a angry bull worries me. I have shot scrub bulls with a 308 and fail safe's on one occassion he went straight down, but on the other occassions it took multiple shots.This is why I would like a larger calibre, to make it more humane and quicker. I have a 300wm Sako finnlight & a 45/70 & recoil isn't a problem. Does the 416 rem mag perform better than the 458 win mag? Cheers Phil |