Have a Winchester 405 Model 95[Miroku] i had imported for me by Black Range firearms ,havent got around to shooting it yet ,not much choice for projectiles Woodleigh ,Hornady and cant remember the other one[Cast bullet Engineering make moulds for the 405 so thats another cheaper option ] ,Teddy Roosevelt had solids make up for him by Winchester ,and they shot everything with it ! there was a lady hunter who took one to Africa [with scope ]and shot a Cape Buffalo with it ,did the job .