I agree Lancaster, working up some loads with Neale (Fatboy) we tried 42, 43 then 44 grains of ADI 2206H without pressure signs, will work towards 45g next. The 44gr load gave 2050fps average with the 270gr Rn Woodleigh so still have room to move. This gave a sub 1 inch group so am very excited and looking forward to seeing what the 9.5x57 can achieve.