I'll remember it alright Perry! Hope to go back out with the boys soon and get an eater for my mate and a bigger buff for me again! I can't recommend the Lee 45-70(or 90) enough! Its easy to shoot gives plenty of power and its as smooth as silk, what more could you want? I thought about building it as a 45-90 but in reality the benifets aren't really worth it, 70 brass is easier to get and cheaper and the power differnce is minimal. If you like I'll forward you the details of my gunsmith mate that did the build.