| WyoJoe |
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| 21/12/12 10:39 AM |
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Gun questions about Down Under
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Not quite sure where to put it but thought this might be the best place.
Can legal immagrants own fire arms in Australia or do you have to be a citizen?
Also any idea of what the state specific gun laws are in Victoria?
Is there a limit on how many guns one person can own?
I am a reloader. Is there any thing against that legally?
The reason I am asking these questions is my uncle is an Aussie citizen & he keeps asking me to come down. He would love it if it was a one way ticket. I thought why not investigate things.
| gryphon |
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| 21/12/12 11:13 AM |
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about the only thing you cant have is any semi or full autos
all in your query is ok I believe.
go to google and look up "victorian firearm laws" or much the same wording,you will get all the goss.
NitroX
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| 21/12/12 11:56 AM |
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Not quite sure where to put it but thought this might be the best place.
Can legal immagrants own fire arms in Australia or do you have to be a citizen?
Also any idea of what the state specific gun laws are in Victoria?
Is there a limit on how many guns one person can own?
I am a reloader. Is there any thing against that legally?
The reason I am asking these questions is my uncle is an Aussie citizen & he keeps asking me to come down. He would love it if it was a one way ticket. I thought why not investigate things.
Double check on whether one must be a citizen, or maybe a permanent resident, for a firearms licence in Victoria. The reason is a Chinese student was licensed and shot several persons with a handgun, and I believe the residency requirements changed after that for Victoria.
Australia is a Commonwealth, and has different State jurisdictions so laws can vary somewhat.
| WyoJoe |
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| 21/12/12 12:30 PM |
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I have sent an enquiry also to the licensing branch of the Victorian police. If it is not favorable and by a very outside chance I get to do this I might have to check out NSW.
| Claydog |
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| 22/12/12 09:50 AM |
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You may be better coming illegally,Smoother transition, more rights and won't even need to work.
| Rule303 |
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| 23/12/12 08:09 AM |
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I have sent an enquiry also to the licensing branch of the Victorian police. If it is not favorable and by a very outside chance I get to do this I might have to check out NSW.
I think you will find that the Vic gun laws are more favourable than the NSW. Least ways they use to be when I lived in Vic. Certainly finding a place to hunt is easier in Vic as all you need is your licence and you can hunt on crown land. Deer licence and you can hunt in some State and National Parks-Deer only though.
| gryphon |
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| 23/12/12 08:54 AM |
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18 million acres of free deer hunting land in Victoria,it costs you under $50 a year to hunt sambar deer..no date limits of either sex size shape or number.
| DarylS |
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| 23/12/12 10:39 AM |
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Australia is a Commonwealth, and has different State jurisdictions so laws can vary somewhat.
Good point - here every Province has it's own game laws for normal game. Migratory game, ie: ducks and geese are covered with a federal licence and stamp.
| Idahoshooter |
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| 24/12/12 11:53 AM |
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Out of curiosity, what percentage of Australia is crown land? I was wondering if you guys had to buy into a hunting lease or if there was free access to hunting property.
| Gaff |
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| 24/12/12 11:08 PM |
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Quote:This is just off the top of my head ,I haven't bothered to look it up but as an overall percentage probably not much really. It varies greatly state by state, Victoria probably has the easiest crown land hunting, NSW has a licencing system for state forest hunting in quite a few forests, I domt think Qld has any public hunting areas and I think SA is very limited or has none, the NT has only 4 public reserves and WA I know nothing about but its probably got none as its a hard state gun law wise.
Out of curiosity, what percentage of Australia is crown land? I was wondering if you guys had to buy into a hunting lease or if there was free access to hunting property.
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NitroX
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| 27/12/12 09:12 PM |
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Quote:Quote:This is just off the top of my head ,I haven't bothered to look it up but as an overall percentage probably not much really. It varies greatly state by state, Victoria probably has the easiest crown land hunting, NSW has a licencing system for state forest hunting in quite a few forests, I domt think Qld has any public hunting areas and I think SA is very limited or has none, the NT has only 4 public reserves and WA I know nothing about but its probably got none as its a hard state gun law wise.
Out of curiosity, what percentage of Australia is crown land? I was wondering if you guys had to buy into a hunting lease or if there was free access to hunting property.
Actually a lot of Australia is "Crown land", if we take into account most of outback Australia is pastoral leases and gov't owned. The leases may be renewable and for 99 year periods, but they are not freehold land. I don't know the definition of crown land though.
South Australia has a lot of crown land. However hunting is only available on unalienated crown land where hunting has not been banned, which I guess means unused. The trouble is no bastard in gov't will tell anyone where it exists, but it does exist for those that have found out. Unlimited hunting on those lands. I know one area the gov't decided to ban hunting on it, as it was declared non hunting recently.
SA has several duck hunting reserves. The SSAA does some culling on gov't lands, parks etc. Most hunting is on private property where permission must be obtained. On the other hand, we have few controls, eg spotlighting is legal even for deer, even if unethical, few seasons, bag limits etc to worry about, only ducks and quail.
NSW has a lot of public land hunting now run by the Game Council, and obtained for shooters thanks to the Shooters and Fishers Party.
Victoria has a lot of public lands hunting and few controls as well, usually no bookings required.
NT has a few reserves as mentioned, otherwise it is all private land (ie leased properties) or Aboriginal land. Permission must be obtained to hunt. Actually harder to get FREE access than many believe, the reason outfitters are often used. Even though it is a big place, there are not a lot of properties as things go, as the leased properties are large themselves. Some individuals have lots of access, many residents up there don't. Of course properties get income from the outfitters, so prefer them. However I once got access to a property merely by telephoning the owner and chatting for a while. Helps to have a common person making the recommendation to name. Unfortunately the leasehold was sold a year or two later. So gaining access starts all over again ...
| ozhunter |
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| 29/12/12 12:44 PM |
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You may be better coming illegally,Smoother transition, more rights and won't even need to work.
I often think my white Zimbabwean mate should do this. His President calls Whites the "enemy of the state" so I should think that is proven political and racial persecution.
It would certainly put a clinch in the "politically correct" Aus system.
Errr, But your White???
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NitroX
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| 29/12/12 03:39 PM |
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Lots of Rhodies in Auatralia. Watervalley once had about twelve families or individuals living on it or working on it. Lots of cottages there I guess, so the Brinkworth's used them for good. A local church was looking after a family. That family had no right to work or other real means of support. The local community helped out I guess with odd jobs and donations.
There is no doubt if Hazara minority muslims from Afghanistan can claim persecution and oppression, then the white Rhodies from Zimbabwe can claim even greater persecution, and claim refugee status in Australia. And the simple fact they bring skills, experience, work ethic and a similar cultural background, makes them good immigrants.
Of course as mentioned, they aren't "ethnic" enough and the wrong political persuasion to satisfy the faggotry left wing immigration nutters. So life is made difficult.
They should be invited en mass to become citizens.
| RLI |
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| 29/12/12 08:56 PM |
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Here in Victoria you can hunt on
Crown land ( if leased with permission)
State Forest
Private Land(with permission)
National Parks (Deer only)
You can hunt all introduced animals but not native animals (only with permit)
You need a game licence for Deer but no bag limit
O/S Visitors can get a temporary licence
Re Loading is legal just need a shooters licence
You can on a Shooters licence own up to 15 firearms any more and you need a alarm system
You can use all types of firearms to hunt except Full Auto,Semi Auto,Pump Shotgun and handgun these are restricted
The above is just the basics but in general I think Victoria has the better firearm/hunting laws......
Cheers
Steve
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NitroX
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| 30/12/12 12:46 PM |
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Yeah it would be a great place except for all the Victorians. Only joking.
| 375Brno |
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| 01/01/13 08:08 AM |
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"You can on a Shooters licence own up to 15 firearms any more and you need a alarm system"
I did not know that one? So besides all guns in a safe you also need an alarm in at least the room where the safe is?
Rick
| gryphon |
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14 guns ...no need for an alarm.
| RLI |
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| 01/01/13 01:37 PM |
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Quote:In Victoria yes alarmed room, QLD may be different,
"You can on a Shooters licence own up to 15 firearms any more and you need a alarm system"
I did not know that one? So besides all guns in a safe you also need an alarm in at least the room where the safe is?
Rick
| kamilaroi |
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| 01/01/13 06:43 PM |
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In NSW there is no limit but storage (safe) requirements I believe are universal.
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NitroX
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| 01/01/13 06:51 PM |
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I think in SA for .22's and shotguns, no safe is required, but storage locked with a chain or trigger lock is still required. I would need to check the legislation. I have a safe so never bothered with lesser requirements.
No limit as far as I know, at least in writing, practice might be different. Nor alarms needed.